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Minnesota Supreme Court Strikes Down Red Light Cameras

theNewspaper.com -- The Minnesota Supreme Court today delivered the highest-level court rebuke to photo enforcement to date with a unanimous decision against the Minneapolis red light camera program. The high court upheld last September's Court of Appeals decision that found the city's program had violated state law (read opinion).

The supreme court found that Minneapolis had disregarded a state law imposing uniformity of traffic laws across the state. The city's photo ticket program offered the accused fewer due process protections than available to motorists prosecuted for the same offense in the conventional way after having been pulled over by a policeman. The court argued that Minneapolis had, in effect, created a new type of crime: "owner liability for red-light violations where the owner neither

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Submitted Dec 06, 2012 By: dirt girl

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SkooterG Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,359 Points:327,835 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 11:08:27 PM Ignore SkooterG Report Abuse Hurrah for the Minnesota Supreme Court!
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,599 Points:1,607,570 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 4:55:43 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse wow, nice victory for drivers.
coughlin Champion Author San Jose Posts:5,170 Points:1,114,940 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 5:27:20 AM Ignore coughlin Report Abuse Good.
iFueler Champion Author Durham Posts:64,328 Points:176,575 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 11:31:05 PM Ignore iFueler Report Abuse in response to goldrose1's comment, this is a VERY OLD ARTICLE which was posted on 4/5/2007
genie_racing Champion Author Colorado Posts:5,959 Points:806,730 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:42:39 PM Ignore genie_racing Report Abuse Great!
pa79th Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:1,767 Points:1,213,925 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:39:03 PM Ignore pa79th Report Abuse That's nice, but what does this have to do with the price of gasoline?
Bezalel Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:12,088 Points:2,288,070 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:30:31 PM Ignore Bezalel Report Abuse Poor Big Brother got a black eye.
Rageagainsttm Champion Author Tampa Posts:8,293 Points:1,901,030 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:30:23 PM Ignore Rageagainsttm Report Abuse Very nice.
jcdakota Champion Author Baltimore Posts:1,347 Points:361,345 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:30:14 PM Ignore jcdakota Report Abuse Great the court is looking out for us , I think!
Beau2140 Champion Author New York Posts:8,286 Points:1,655,210 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:29:53 PM Ignore Beau2140 Report Abuse Good reason not to go to Minnesota.
nwsynthetics Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,014 Points:345,075 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:28:27 PM Ignore nwsynthetics Report Abuse hmmmmmm
10k Champion Author North Carolina Posts:21,231 Points:2,252,070 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:27:29 PM Ignore 10k Report Abuse dang right-you go minnesota ;)
Bigwaynef Champion Author South Carolina Posts:11,458 Points:2,078,810 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:24:49 PM Ignore Bigwaynef Report Abuse Nah they'll just crack another state sooner or later...
crreed1 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,975 Points:2,524,385 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:24:19 PM Ignore crreed1 Report Abuse old news
Zonk Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,471 Points:2,100,065 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:23:58 PM Ignore Zonk Report Abuse It is really difficult to guess which way our court systems are going to rule on most items.
J4romeo All-Star Author Gary Posts:506 Points:1,214,925 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:22:27 PM Ignore J4romeo Report Abuse good to hear..:)
5Golfer8 Champion Author Tucson Posts:2,133 Points:299,675 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:21:54 PM Ignore 5Golfer8 Report Abuse I hope it spreads across the country to eliminate these cameras every where.
hosspuller Sophomore Author Greensboro Posts:174 Points:1,565,355 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:20:08 PM Ignore hosspuller Report Abuse score for the rule of law instead of whatever tyranny gov't decides to inflict...
s6sputnik Champion Author Austin Posts:6,214 Points:1,305,470 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:19:32 PM Ignore s6sputnik Report Abuse Sweet!
getalong All-Star Author California Posts:787 Points:147,310 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:19:15 PM Ignore getalong Report Abuse I think they should replace the camera with a rifle. Maybe change the current red lights to a sign, "do you feel lucky punk!"
FlyNFool Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,229 Points:1,683,025 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:19:13 PM Ignore FlyNFool Report Abuse Wonder if the justices were victims of the cameras?
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:5,609 Points:800,300 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:18:50 PM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse I think that the red lght system is valid. It does lesd to a safer road since it is a good deterent.
malfrog1 Champion Author South Bend Posts:2,186 Points:547,060 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:18:37 PM Ignore malfrog1 Report Abuse They actually did the right thing.
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,120 Points:1,353,810 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:17:15 PM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse The article was dated '2007 with the ruling released in '2004. Probably changed the State law since to not require equal application of law or something to get around it.
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,482 Points:1,507,830 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:16:45 PM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse I hope other states follow. The camera makes the car the offender and the owner is presumed to be the guilty driver.
Blue_Cruzer Champion Author Lexington Posts:7,510 Points:1,667,635 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:15:10 PM Ignore Blue_Cruzer Report Abuse Seems more and more states are using these cameras just for the revenue they can produce.
suicyco16 All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:576 Points:285,125 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:14:51 PM Ignore suicyco16 Report Abuse Yippee
unicornpmb Champion Author Buffalo Posts:8,476 Points:1,627,465 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:13:00 PM Ignore unicornpmb Report Abuse OMG. Lets see how long that holds up.
mpg611 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,322 Points:567,145 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:12:46 PM Ignore mpg611 Report Abuse Bravo Minnesota!!
Jmac2008 Champion Author Missouri Posts:2,259 Points:878,215 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:11:52 PM Ignore Jmac2008 Report Abuse I don't like them but a lot of people run red lights and cause accidents.
yyc2yow All-Star Author Ottawa Posts:642 Points:568,385 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:11:14 PM Ignore yyc2yow Report Abuse need those cameas
CarefreeVT Champion Author Burlington Posts:1,796 Points:256,105 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:10:56 PM Ignore CarefreeVT Report Abuse GRATS!!! Take them dang things down!
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:10,527 Points:1,856,420 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:10:54 PM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse Other states should follow.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,114 Points:2,369,420 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:10:35 PM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse bravo for the supremes
oldiesman Champion Author New York Posts:6,417 Points:2,192,010 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:10:04 PM Ignore oldiesman Report Abuse Good for this State, what's fair is fair.
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,120 Points:1,353,810 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:09:28 PM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse A Supreme Court actually did something right for a change. ps: Goldrose, I noted your question below. The full article does have a date, top R says 4/5/2007. Also at bottom of article in text. Very old article. [Edited by: TIGERPAW46 at 12/7/2012 12:15:15 AM EST]
regout Champion Author Quebec Posts:2,940 Points:829,780 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:09:11 PM Ignore regout Report Abuse Always new way to make money on us. Big brother lost.
goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:10,926 Points:1,922,555 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:08:39 PM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse Wish these articles had dates on them.
1fulltank Champion Author Buffalo Posts:7,893 Points:1,542,360 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:08:09 PM Ignore 1fulltank Report Abuse Big Brother takes a hit.
jkpsr Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,074 Points:1,100,930 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:07:38 PM Ignore jkpsr Report Abuse Most Red Light Cameras are simply revenue increasing measures.
Geo4564 Champion Author Nevada Posts:6,906 Points:1,566,595 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:07:33 PM Ignore Geo4564 Report Abuse Windfall for the lawyers.
RAE344 Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:3,049 Points:658,595 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:06:03 PM Ignore RAE344 Report Abuse Most police hate a well informed citizen. Don't blame them, they don't seem to attract our country's best and brightest.
boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,708 Points:386,025 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:05:38 PM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse No more camera lights
Liberty2000 Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,739 Points:280,520 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:04:16 PM Ignore Liberty2000 Report Abuse Needs to happen everywhere!
TheSicilian Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:5,364 Points:1,467,575 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:03:47 PM Ignore TheSicilian Report Abuse go minnesota
cheaper0ON All-Star Author Ontario Posts:968 Points:395,580 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:03:11 PM Ignore cheaper0ON Report Abuse Good
jetskijerry Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,886 Points:770,320 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:03:09 PM Ignore jetskijerry Report Abuse Could be...
Palantas All-Star Author Indianapolis Posts:803 Points:412,345 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:02:54 PM Ignore Palantas Report Abuse Good for Minnesota!!
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,120 Points:1,353,810 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 9:02:37 PM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse Another good reason to be careful who you allow to use your vehicle. Also since inception there have been a lot of problems with confirmed proven speed camera errors.
Mark8601 All-Star Author Bakersfield Posts:913 Points:378,765 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 8:59:22 PM Ignore Mark8601 Report Abuse Yuuuup!