FuelBarge
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DocWyeth - "Sales of SUV etc are off more than 20% based on other articles posted here."
...and the sad thing is they are ONLY off 20%. If people were truly upset by the high prices, environment damage and poor mileage they would be off something like 80%. I still see the Hummer H2 and H3's lumbering around here. It makes me laugh to see them now.
[Edited by: FuelBarge at 5/15/2008 12:39:28 PM EST]
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torquewrench: "How come I see prices still going up"
Because the demand *worldwide* is still going up:
Oil Refiners See Profits Sink as Consumption Falls
NY Times
For decades, global oil prices were tightly coupled to the ups and downs of the American economy. But in recent years, world oil prices have been pulled upward by heavy demand for diesel fuel from developing countries like China. American economic growth weakened in the last few months, but that has mattered little in the upward march of oil prices.
“What we see at the gasoline pump is increasingly driven by what is happening elsewhere in the global economy,” said Daniel Yergin, the chairman of Cambridge Energy Research Associates, a consulting firm.
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In its latest monthly report, the International Energy Agency, an adviser to industrialized countries, reduced its forecast for global oil demand for this year, as consumption drops by a bigger-than-forecast 300,000 barrels a day in the developed world.
But that decline will be more than offset by growth from developing countries. Consequently, global consumption is expected to rise this year by 1 million barrels a day, to 86.8 million barrels a day. Nearly all that growth will come from China, the Middle East and Russia.
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Complain We would not be in this situation if it weren't for are good old E P A & the SEARREA club they got us by the b---lls with their mandates.. We can go in and drill the place will look as if no one was their they do it with the pipe lines all the time.. We need to go in and lower prices.. Then put are HEARTS $ MIND to finding other forms of energy .. It's hard to think of other sources when you are standing in line for a hanging..Remember the E P A is killing us ..I'm in the construction line of work I see what they do to job sites..( the extra costs & herdales that have to be jumped )
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Is the pain threshold here or are we still just grumbling.
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When the U.S.'s auto and airline industry is totally in shambles I'm sure Congress will get into the game. Just a little too late.
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they are way past my pain threshold
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DocWyeth
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Sales of SUV etc are off more than 20% based on other articles posted here.
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Been past it for about the last 50 cents!
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It's not bad enough. The day I see people doing 55-65 on a 65 MPH speed limit is when the threshold is felt. If you can go beyond the limit you're not feeling it. Case closed.
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I gotta agree with gerund1...it's more like agony
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Waiting for this weeks 30cent increase.
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been in pain for a while now
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Complain We would not be in this situation
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I agree.
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NEAR THE PAIN THRESHOLD!!!!!!! Got there some time ago. Now it's more like agony.
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I don't have a high pain tollerance.
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My amazement is that sales of trucks and SUVs dropped ONLY 20%. I can see the people that already own the gas guzzlers trying to run the life out of them, but to buy a brand new one right now ?
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The price of gas has been affecting my behaviour for a long time.
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$126.00 per barrel right now- and just in time for a long weekend!
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I am past my pain threshold.
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WOW: Montreal 139.4 a litre = $5.28 a gallon WOW!!!!
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hangupanddrive is right and cbpilot: check Area 51 Maybe that's where the stockpiles of such articles are buried...
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No surprise that RV, SUV or truck sales will drop with the high fuel prices. Same old story as in the 1970's era. Nobody ever learns. Cannot rely on foreign oil and be independent. A world economy means the world will rule the United States and we will lose our freedom eventually and it's already started folks!
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It's too bad you can't simple down size (right size) an SUV. Unfortunately, you have to wait for it wear out, and then get rid of it. The problem is, it takes well over 100,000 miles to wear it out. And just trading it off, does not fix the problem. All it does is shift the burden from Person A's Wallet, to Sucker B's Wallet. Until the gas hog is crushed, and melted down to make two smaller cars, the total energy used as a nation does not change.
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How come I see prices still going up
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same stories every day...gas just keeps going up..whats new
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pinch me, I'm dreaming
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To all who respond to this with Big Oil and GREED in your comments, try reflecting on what is really happening.
"Oil companies" know that if they can't bring down the price of oil, and gas prices continue to climb, they are in for bad publicity. They NEED customers to be somewhat happy because if WE are not, someone will make them happy (i.e. Sears vs Walmart).
Don't get sucked into the fallacy of class warfare hate, it is a political ploy to divide everyone.
Supply and demand are still at work. It's just that the "threat" of diminished supply by OPEC is driving prices up. The oil shieks are lining their pockets while they can. And since oil was nationalized in other places which has the same effect; only a gov't dictator gets the $$$.
One of the ways to stop the fear is to open exploration in Alaska (ANWR) and offshore in the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific coast. It is SAFE to do this so you environmental buddies can rest at ease. We NEED this UNTIL viable alternatives can be established.
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Not $1.29 but $1.39 now
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wow! did they really say "NEAR"?!?!?
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I'm already in a lot of pain.
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I'm already in the pain threshold!
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"near" the pain threshold????
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Wow, another story stating the obvious.
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thank you sir can I have another!
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Remember that "Sales" fell .4 percent. That is a dollar amount. Gas went up a lot and dollar sales went down.
That means something. That means that the maximum amount Americans are willing to pay for gas has been exceeded and that as gas goes up, we will consume fewer gallons and even spend fewer dollars overall.
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The pain threshold was passed $3.50 ago
back in 1973 when 'they' said there would
be no more oil in about 10 or 20 years.
They lied.
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When they say "near", what the hell are they talking about? It was passed some time ago.
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Dennis783;
brogan56;
eglev; The threshold passed for many, but what about the oilbarons?
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Can I please have one of those 80 mpg carburetors the oil companies bought up years ago?
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they've passed the pain threshold
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Dugh
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Well, I started conserving by reducing my auto usage but the food prices and other consumer items are hurting just a bit.
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Threshold passed when it hit $3.25, people have adjusted but the price still goes up. WE NEED TO DRILL NOW come on Congress get on the ball here!
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Maybe the oil companies should read these posts. Of course we are fed up with the fuel cost.
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People are taking a long time to adjust their lifestyles, so of course there is going to be some pain.
In the grand scheme of things, people are way too focussed on gas prices.
Do you think OPEC and the gas companies have won? Now you have people lining up for gas when it's at 1.20c/L, feeding the whole panic mentality.
There's nothing I can do to change the price of gas, so I just try to use as little of it as possible, but otherwise just call it a sunk cost and move on.
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BOO-HOO-HOO-HOO, don't you just feel so sorry for them?????
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duh
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More people are making changes in response to price, but people have been changing all along as prices have risen.
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Near...about a year ago.
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