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Cameras are budget boon

Tampa Bay Online -- The city of Tampa has almost 2.3 million reasons to like red light cameras.

The photo-based system of ticketing traffic violators still generates plenty of controversy, and a bevy of mixed court decisions, but while the public debate simmers, the cameras are flashing at a dizzying pace. The automated system racks up traffic scofflaws at rates far higher than police ever could.

The numbers are adding up for cash-starved local governments.

"I'm surprised how much revenue we brought in," Tampa City Councilman Mike Suarez said of the $2.26 million the city has pulled in since November from red light camera violations at 24 intersections.

"I've also been told the Tampa Police Department has seen a reduction in crashes at intersections with red light cameras. Yes, we are making a little bit

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,583 Points:1,606,430 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 3:20:42 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse FL is still not fully okay with it in some areas.
OHMS Champion Author Orange County Posts:13,701 Points:1,688,855 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 2:59:32 AM Ignore OHMS Report Abuse nor legal in CA
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,583 Points:1,606,430 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 2:58:01 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse many hear have said that for a long time. Red Light Cameras = Cash Cows.
GatorGuy Champion Author Columbia Posts:2,220 Points:1,203,735 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 11:07:08 AM Ignore GatorGuy Report Abuse Thank you, big brother for keeping me safe. Whatever the cost.
hauler43 Champion Author Oakland Posts:8,158 Points:2,597,750 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:39:28 AM Ignore hauler43 Report Abuse Drive correctly
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:2,981 Points:594,810 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:19:17 AM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
allezrider Rookie Author Massachusetts Posts:77 Points:712,165 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 5:31:17 AM Ignore allezrider Report Abuse The perception that I get is that people would rather bitch about the cameras than follow the rules of the road. Doesn't surprise me. I say keep the cameras.
tidalwave3 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:1,294 Points:1,460,075 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 3:35:57 AM Ignore tidalwave3 Report Abuse tomok: You are so naive.. Red Light cameras are part of Agenda 21 and promote you are "Guilty until proven innocent" concept. And yes the lights have been altered with yellow light timing and other defects. Red Light Cameras must GO, they are more defective that working and all to RAISE REVENUE for the local Government :( Right on "defianceman" you know it andf New Orleans and Houston voters did vote to stop REd Light Cameras :)
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,922 Points:2,342,585 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 1:08:27 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Obey the traffic laws and red light cameras are not a problem. Drive over the speed limit, run red lights and cameras will record your offenses. Expect to pay the local government for your mistakes. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, has a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
defiancegasman Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,075 Points:1,322,185 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 9:58:18 PM Ignore defiancegasman Report Abuse Not the whole story. MOST CITIES that put in the red light cameras will SHORTEN THE YELLOW LIGHTS to GENERATE MORE ILLEGAL TICKETS. It is a TAX INCREASE on the WORKERS, since the TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH have reduced the total taxes paid, they have to make it up somehow!!
DrCashFlow Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:7,059 Points:1,624,400 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:59:45 PM Ignore DrCashFlow Report Abuse trying to balance the budget, eh
MDTDriver Champion Author California Posts:9,709 Points:2,151,620 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:57:33 PM Ignore MDTDriver Report Abuse Stay out of Tampa.
DandyDapple All-Star Author North Dakota Posts:715 Points:307,820 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:55:58 PM Ignore DandyDapple Report Abuse 9 out 10 are defective ... what a joke ...
Saunch2012 Veteran Author Pennsylvania Posts:451 Points:110,355 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:54:43 PM Ignore Saunch2012 Report Abuse ok
jferrara41 All-Star Author Pennsylvania Posts:598 Points:110,665 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:53:02 PM Ignore jferrara41 Report Abuse Big Brother, here we go
Tekkersmom57 Champion Author Syracuse Posts:1,859 Points:697,640 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:50:51 PM Ignore Tekkersmom57 Report Abuse I guess if it makes the intersection safer it is worth it.
VernonOR Champion Author Oregon Posts:2,895 Points:734,470 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:44:27 PM Ignore VernonOR Report Abuse Great, the only way to stop traffic violators is to hit them in the pocket book. The higher the price of a ticket combined with higher auto insurance help stop repeat offenders.
J4romeo All-Star Author Gary Posts:506 Points:1,214,925 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:42:55 PM Ignore J4romeo Report Abuse another two way attack on tax payers pockets...1st having the cameras installed n 2nd if u are one of the unlucky ones that get caught by the camera with a ticket in the mail..:(
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,889 Points:1,918,255 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:41:50 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse My niece got a ticket mailed to her that her son got by a red light. She paid it not knowing she didn't have too, as she was not the driver and was home.
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,290 Points:1,634,920 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:41:08 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse EASY $!
mdskier Champion Author Maryland Posts:9,919 Points:1,779,585 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:39:10 PM Ignore mdskier Report Abuse Here Beltway Bandits install them for free at no cost to county/cities. The Bandits get to keep 40 to 50% of the money collected. What A Scam! Scufflaws are mostly those awful soccer moms in a rush to get their johnnys to school on time!
MaxCO2 All-Star Author Washington Posts:503 Points:162,495 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:37:47 PM Ignore MaxCO2 Report Abuse If you get one of these tickets, don't pay it. They can't prove you were driving the car. It's that simple if you've got the balls.
shadow_knows Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,488 Points:328,995 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:36:40 PM Ignore shadow_knows Report Abuse Easy to avoid that fine. Just stop for a red. It won't kill you.
mikaye Champion Author Cleveland Posts:3,814 Points:861,410 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:35:03 PM Ignore mikaye Report Abuse more gouging
rbrk02 Champion Author Rhode Island Posts:5,719 Points:813,230 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:33:50 PM Ignore rbrk02 Report Abuse Money grab. Red light cameras should be illegal.
WBBNC Veteran Author North Carolina Posts:499 Points:488,640 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:32:47 PM Ignore WBBNC Report Abuse I am not surprised how much revenue they (cameras) brought in...
gavinON All-Star Author Toronto Posts:562 Points:112,935 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:32:28 PM Ignore gavinON Report Abuse hmmm
bra0712 Champion Author Arizona Posts:3,649 Points:764,795 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:29:47 PM Ignore bra0712 Report Abuse K
greentre All-Star Author Pensacola Posts:778 Points:273,545 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:28:24 PM Ignore greentre Report Abuse As long as they are set up correctly and aren't combined with short yellow lights, etc.
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,767 Points:640,910 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:24:45 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse I hate red light cameras but they will not be banned if they are making money.
Bleeder Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,038 Points:1,697,375 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:23:40 PM Ignore Bleeder Report Abuse Some towns have taken this too far. But then again, don't break the law and you will have nothing to worry about.
silverfoxv65 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,465 Points:1,227,125 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:22:59 PM Ignore silverfoxv65 Report Abuse Maybe they will have enough money to keep the cops they have now!
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,907 Points:1,571,955 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:22:57 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse in othere words, it is a good revenue source and that is it
FlogNut Champion Author Chicago Posts:104,265 Points:1,984,750 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:20:52 PM Ignore FlogNut Report Abuse Money, money, money! It's all about more money so politicians can buy more votes!
Somis1 Champion Author Ventura Posts:13,662 Points:2,610,775 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:19:47 PM Ignore Somis1 Report Abuse How are they wasting this windfall?
Pramodsharma Champion Author Richmond Posts:1,969 Points:384,065 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:18:33 PM Ignore Pramodsharma Report Abuse There looks to be a camera lobby
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,210 Points:869,225 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:17:32 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse They are not about safety, they are about raising revenue.
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,784 Points:1,839,550 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:16:18 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Cameras are very dangerous. THere are more collisions now thna before the cameras. Get rid of them NOW!
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,785 Points:815,310 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:16:05 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse definitely an easy $$$$$$ cash $$$$$$$ flow generator for cities once their initial investment for the equipment is recovered
abacus44 Champion Author Toms River Posts:3,460 Points:744,490 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:14:37 PM Ignore abacus44 Report Abuse They are being banned in many towns and states, as well they should be.
regasaz Champion Author Phoenix Posts:5,775 Points:1,279,380 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:11:27 PM Ignore regasaz Report Abuse It is more of a revenue generator than a safety issue for these cities.
blazerbob91 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,125 Points:1,879,670 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:07:24 PM Ignore blazerbob91 Report Abuse They cause more problems than they are worth
tco9436 Champion Author Connecticut Posts:1,772 Points:719,925 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:06:08 PM Ignore tco9436 Report Abuse Doesn't Help ME!
WebGabe Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,349 Points:492,620 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:04:25 PM Ignore WebGabe Report Abuse Ripoff.
warlord1 Champion Author Georgia Posts:5,230 Points:1,030,975 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:04:10 PM Ignore warlord1 Report Abuse ok
jimedB Veteran Author Riverside Posts:385 Points:78,515 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:02:40 PM Ignore jimedB Report Abuse But they always tell us here that they are not to generate revenue but to improve safety. In fact most of the cameras are being taken out due to the fact the contract to lease and operate them costs much more than the fines collected.
MahopacJack Champion Author New York Posts:8,000 Points:1,580,650 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:02:21 PM Ignore MahopacJack Report Abuse Were the cost of these cameras mentioned in the article? The upkeep? It seems the only thing the politicians are looking at is the revenue? Did I miss something? Politicians not looking at unintended consequences?
DustyHorse Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,067 Points:1,387,845 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:01:53 PM Ignore DustyHorse Report Abuse Red light cameras cause accidents. I was rear ended by a F-150 pickup after stopping for one of these lights. He hit me hard enough to break my seat and total my car. Fortunately I just got the wind knocked out of me.
John747 Champion Author Chicago Posts:471,905 Points:3,621,985 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:01:29 PM Ignore John747 Report Abuse This is all about getting more revenue for the cities.
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:14,857 Points:1,438,095 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:00:17 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse It's for public safety! Make sure the yellow light isn't too long. Now how do we waste... I mean blow... eh, spend all this revenue.